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2010-08-02

Jacob not only lies to his father, but in Genesis 27:18-20, he invokes God to formulate his lie. To believers, lying when God is involved is much worse than simply lying alone—you break two commandments at once doing that: the ninth commandment prohibiting lying, and the third commandment prohibiting the misuse of God's name (commandment numbers vary by denomination). This doubly-wammy is often why, when people are suspicious, you'll hear them demand that the person "swear to God" that they're telling the truth. That way, if they're lying, they won't just go to the place in Hell reserved for liars, they'll go to the especially fiery and brimstoney section of Hell.

Of course, asking someone to "swear to God" for the purpose of exposing a lie is, in itself, breaking of the third commandment. Such an act is also strictly forbidden according to Matthew 5:33-35, which says that swearing on anything in the heavens or on earth is evil. Of course, I'd wager that most people who swear to God probably haven't read the bible anyway.

Coincidentally enough, Jacob's response is incredibly typical to the response that believers give when they reach the extent of their scientific knowledge. If you ask a believer where the universe came from, and they have no knowledge of the cosmos, you'll probably get Goddidit right off the bat. However, if you ask a believer who studied cosmology, they would probably tell you that the universe began during a period of inflation, they'd probably mention redshifted galaxies, the cosmic microwave background, abundance of primordial elements, etc. But finally, when asked what caused the big bang, they would cheerfully interject, Goddidit!, rather than say "I don't know."

 

Comments

Tmowlee writes:

 

god of the gaps it seems. That's one of the more annoying facets of religious arguement, the shifted burden of proof. Science needs a complete explaination for everything or else it's "goddidit". A lack of explanation doesn't make them more right.

As for Jacob, I think he'll be fine so long as he doesn't start dripping blood on Issac.

Mr-know-it-all writes:

 

AHA! So I was right and it's the alternative, 5% less preposterous scheme that is being used here!

Baughbe writes:

 

Goddidit! The (ha ha) "grown up" version of "I didn't do it!"

Billy, who butchered the dog and used its blood to paint gang signs on the house?

Godddidit!

TheAlmightyGuru writes:

 

The annoying thing about the Goddidit argument is that, if you actually want to help the person, you have to sit them down and explain the entire process of burden of proof (something that should be taught in grade school) and argument from ignorance. And even after you've explained why Goddidit is useless, they will probably continue to use it.

Ray writes:

 

(Yes, I'm late to comment again, but does anyone here really care about me, anyway?) I swear, we need to have logic classes in our grade schools. It would help us have less idiots in the schools.

That said, I think it's almost believable for Isaac to believe Jacob; When you're that old, you're likely to be senile, so "Goddidit" would probably sound like a valid excuse to someone who is senile, if you ask me.

Chris writes:

 

I have a feeling that if we made a list of all the arguments that creationists can make, goddidit would be number 42.







Anyone? Anyone?

TheAlmightyGuru writes:

 

Douglas Adams FTW!

Techs writes:

 

Anyone have any idea when FTW changed to 'for the win'? Not that I expect an answer a year after the other comments were made.

TheAlmightyGuru writes:

 

When it first started showing up, I thought it stood for "fuck the what". I don't know when it became popular though.

Techs writes:

 

Wowsers, a reply. Thanks TAG. In the 70's and 80's it was Fuck The World. Then I got married, kids and stopped hanging around the more sociable people. Still had the Harley.

 

Oh the irony!